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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby Malika » Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:10 am

To be honest, I have no clue! The fellows over at Fox Box managed to win £400 voucher for printing, I think it's FabLab, need to verify. They've expressed interest in casting/distributing my designs, so I'm starting with the ships and some 28mm sized bits.

Hopefully I'll be able to show you some better pictures soon! :)
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby mangozac » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:36 am

Very cool, Malika! Can't wait to see some larger pictures - although from what I can see there the print quality is looking fantastic!
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby Malika » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:02 am

A little box arrived at the post yesterday...

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(not all the boarding pods are in the picture)

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Compared to FUD by Shapeways (front ship) this stuff is (a) a lot more detailed and (b) a lot smoother, which is all very nice!

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However, there have been some issues with the bottom parts of the ships:
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Hopefully this can be fixed with some (liquid) greenstuff and some filing/sanding...

Oh, and I really love how the boarding pods came out!
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby mangozac » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:42 am

Great to see, Malika! It must feel good to have some physical models in your hands!

It's a shame about the underside. Is that just due to that particular printing process or did something go wrong? Are the prints a hard material?
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby Malika » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:03 pm

Great to see, Malika! It must feel good to have some physical models in your hands!

It's indeed very nice to see the physical models in my hand. I always forget to realize how small BFG models actually are. The whole 'undercut' thing has me a lot less worries for that reason. One thing I kinda noticed - somebody commented about that on the Specialist Games forum - is that it kinda looks as if the details have been a bit rounded. If I recall correctly Shapeways' polished materials have a similar size effect. However, upon looking at it, I don't mind it that much. It makes me think of the difference between a GW bolter and the weapons by Anvil Industry. Don't get me wrong, I like what Anvil are trying to do (also with AFTERLIFE), but GW's weapons do seem a lot smoother and look less '3d printed'. It's kinda your previous feedback about the clearly recognizable basic geometric shapes I guess!

It's a shame about the underside. Is that just due to that particular printing process or did something go wrong? Are the prints a hard material?

The prints seem to be of a hard material, which one exactly I don't know. I should try to find out. As for the underside, it's due to their printing process. But I've got a feeling that they're also just figuring out their equipment a bit (since it's done by the Manufacturing Engineering Centre at Cardiff University). I had a kinda similar process when the guys from State University New York approached me to print some of my designs. They claimed they could only print stuff that has a fully flat bottom surface. I guess they never heard of support prats for the bottom of the model, which is something the fellows over at Cardiff did do ok, but the support pillars kinda got too stuck to the model, or they did a sloppy job of cleaning. I think that if I were to do this whole thing next time I'd approach a more high-end service, despite it being a very nice and interesting experience to work with universities on this.
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby Islacrusez » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:13 pm

It is one thing I noticed, that there's no trace of any hard edges. Generally though, military vehicles have lots of those someplace or another. Makes them feel a bit like toys, or sweets. Probably not helped by them being bubblegum pink! Cast them up and give them a lick of paint, I'm curious to see how they'll come out.
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby Fleafa » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:45 pm

Looks like perfactory. Maybe an Envisiontec Mini Multi like VisionProto use, but almost certainly running at a lower resolution, which could explain some of the lack of sharp edges. More likely, as you mention they are still getting to grips with it, is that they don't have the lenses set up as well as they could. I believe VisionProto etc. also have a different lens set-up to the stock machine.
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby mangozac » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:39 am

I too noticed the rounded details but didn't want to be too negative. They are pretty noticeable though and unfortunately, as pointed out by Islacrusez, it makes them feel a little toy like.

Like anything, getting 3D prints done is a learning experience!
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby Malika » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:55 am

According to the guys who did the prints it's determined by the material. So maybe indeed try HTM140 next time?
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby mangozac » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:36 am

Can't hurt to give it a go!
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby Malika » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:04 pm

I've already sent an email to the guys at Cardiff University if it were possible to have the next stuff printed in HTM-140, lets see how they'll respond. :)
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby RageofAchilles » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:38 pm

It's cool that you got a few designs made though, you can get a good feel for the scale :)

The best prints I have seen are by these guys http://www.moddler.com/portfolio

Here is one they did that is just gorgeous!!

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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby Malika » Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:08 am

Moddler are indeed very good! Micro RP are also pretty good. And they're based in Germany, which for me is kinda handy since I live in Holland (cheaper delivery and no additional import taxes etc).
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby RageofAchilles » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:38 am

Just had a look at Micro RP. Very nice resolution.
Also looks like a company specialising in miniatures, which is cool.

have you put the models on stands yet ? I wouldn't be able to resist seeing what they looked like in formation :)
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Re: Designing ships [possible BFG scale]

Postby mangozac » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:41 am

RageofAchilles wrote:Image

Wow that's stunning! Combining barely clad women and exosuits - two things I love! :P
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