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Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby Munkey Joe » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:35 am

OK Well as some of you who are connected through Facebook know Im doing a career change soon and moving to the Wild Reaches of Redneck-Ville Alabama.... I am going to be Buying out my Grandfathers Self Storage Warehouse business and retiring my Badge and duty Sidearm. I think its going to be a lot less stressful but more Labor intensive..... But I will be my own Boss and make my own hours.

Anyway I am taking out a $500K-750K loan to purchase the business, so this is one time where I want to get things right. I will have NO CREDIT once this loan is complete and cannot afford to mess it up. I want to buy a 3d printer and have it rolled into the loan for the property. I am able to get the property for cheaper than the loan and should have money to buy one.

Without getting TOO personal about my finances here is my plan:
1)Get 1/2 million dollar loan (actually this SHOULD be EASY, 3/4 should not be)
2)Buy property and business
3)Have leftover money to buy Harley, 3D printer and put several $$ into petty cash for operational expense.
4)...???...
5)Profit... :mrgreen:

Now here is my dilemma.... I need a GOOD quality printer that can print out in either Wax or ABS plastic (I think Wax is the best for our applications??) and come with all the software needed to run OR have it readily available. This is drivers and 3d rendering software. Is this something "ready in box-plug and play" or something I should build myself part by part??? This would be used for prototyping parts for miniatures and I would basically hook up anyone on here for cheap, so quality is more important over lowest price. Also Im kinda dumb so ease of use is pretty important to me also. SO people..... Pitch me a machine.

** disclaimer All of this is provided I get BANK financing and "buy out" write in on the approval letter. If I do not for some reason, I still buy out my grandfather but do it as a Owner financed option Meaning I have no extra cash, but make percentage payments from the profits earned. I would still like your input (aka your dream machines) as Even if its owner financed I still can save my pennies and purchase it sometime soon- being in a year or 2.... :ugeek:
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby Munkey Joe » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:03 am

Heres some Looking about I saw....

3Z pro Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtOvwrGso4

the cheaper, smaller print but same detail quality 3Z studio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z6rxJscY84

and a Buildable printer..... On the cheap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zanaGBxRws&feature=endscreen

Im a novice with NO electrical background BUT I can learn and Im mechanically sound (meaning I can build stuff) Thoughts on these 3 options??

And more on solidscapes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDFwznDvszU&list=PL509BA95E08A9B8E4&feature=plpp
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby mangozac » Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:25 am

Alan did a LOT of research (months of it - I got sick of him talking about the latest printer he discovered all the time :P ) and the wax printer he got is what he settled on. You'll have to hit him up if he doesn't show up here.
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby Munkey Joe » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:35 am

Yea I pmed him about it when he posted about his first figure..... And Im Kinda hoping he will drop in.

Im leaning toward something similar to what he got but again if all goes right i will NOT be able to just get another one for some time. Imkinda wanting to get it right the first time for once.... LOL
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby mangozac » Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:02 pm

Yeah he's flat out at the moment hence why he hasn't been around much. Either that or he doesn't like you and is ignoring your PMs but I'm pretty sure it's the former :P

Apparently the premium used machine market is definitely worth investigating too!
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby Deadmeat30 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:29 pm

I'm here I'm here. Lol.

OK, as Zac said. I have done so much research into 3d printers I have driven him up the wall. I even went to a 3d printer convention to do research. I settled on a Solidscape printer. The printers are some of the most detailed print out for the cost. Sure envisiontec can match it. But there machines are nearly twice as much.

The 3z pro and studio are the same, just the studio is limited to 25 micron layers minimum and has been programmed to print at a slower speed.

Second hand printers is a market to look at. The T76 plus is a lovely bit of kit!

It's all about the research, get test printings don't. I've got scores of the stuff. It's a huge investment to do.
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby Munkey Joe » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:34 am

Deadmeat30 wrote:Second hand printers is a market to look at. The T76 plus is a lovely bit of kit!

It's all about the research, get test printings don't. I've got scores of the stuff. It's a huge investment to do.


Im fine with the investment.... Again Provided I get the loan for the business.... LOL If Im going $400K into the red Whats another $30-50???

I have looked at Ebay and found some machines to look at BUT Ebay just seems unreliable to me. Is there another 2nd hand source to get machines from LIke an authorized reconditioning store or some such?? What would a search keyword for someone like that be???
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby mangozac » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:19 am

Talk to the manufacturers themselves.
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby Deadmeat30 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:53 am

Yeah. They normally take machines as part exchanges.
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby Iplaythisgame » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:05 am

It's not wax but I would look into sterolithography resin printers. Seems to be the highest res printers out there. The Formlabs printer is where I would look.
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby Munkey Joe » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:35 am

Iplaythisgame wrote:It's not wax but I would look into sterolithography resin printers. Seems to be the highest res printers out there. The Formlabs printer is where I would look.


I remember this But weren't the being sued by someone??? are they Legit now?? I dont mind paying a little more for support and such But I DEP will look into them some!
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby mangozac » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:16 am

Lawsuit aside, Formlabs is still far from high enough surface finish quality.
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby Deadmeat30 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:18 am

Yeah the form labs is excellent for its price. But for what we need. Just doesn't cut it. Give it some time and there will be modded versions that would work well. As well as new resins.
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby Munkey Joe » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:36 am

Ahhhh See experience and knowledge had saved me from wasting cash. I kinda figured with the price difference that it was not quite what I needed.
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Re: Munkey can haz 3d printer??

Postby Deadmeat30 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:10 am

Hit me up on Skype under this username for a chat about it.
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